It comes from the Greek word "Christos," meaning "the Anointed One," or "Messiah" in Hebrew. Even so, many have wondered whether we can affirm the end of the fourth line, which teaches that Jesus “He descended into hell.” It was created to help guide people through the apocalypse / lake of fire / ascension process without getting too sea sick, so to speak. In a recently made Sermon by a Priest, he told that Jesus first descended to the “Hell” because Jesus Christ took our sin on the cross and died. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry, and whoever believes in … Jesus (Yehoshua) is basically saying the same thing in John 3 to Nicodemus, it’s all about being “born again,” “born from above,” “descending out of heaven” in order to get into heaven that is “the kingdom of God”. He told his disciples to baptize people in his name/authority. Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. The “word of God” became flesh in him. Sometimes, the Bible simply says, "Jesus prayed," yet other times we see a glimpse of something more. I felt unclear so I looked up the English version, and yeah, there you go. Those who believe Jesus (Yehoshua) was the son of God, the messiah/prophet, would believe what he spoke, for he spoke FOR YHWH. But is that what the bible teaches? John, realizing that Jesus (Yehoshua) was born from above, wanted him to baptize him, rather than the other way around. If you’re born from above, you have God’s seed (YHWH’s Holy Spirit) inside, Jesus (Yehoshua) referred to his followers as “gods”. He needed an immediate sign that he would survive the day. Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? It is much more consistent with the context of John 3 as well as the rest of Scripture to understand Jesus referring to Himself as the one who came from heaven, giving Him authority to speak to Nicodemus regarding eternal life. First, in the genealogy encountered in the Gospel of Luke,1the very syntax of the Greek text seems to argue against the notion that Joseph is the son of Heli. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Holman Christian Standard Bible No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven--the Son of Man. Canonicity of the Bible: From God or Constantine? For he is risen, as he said". Of John the Baptist we read, in John 1:6, “There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.”. Those born of God doth not commit sin, because they are born of God (1 John 3:9). His teaching was not his own, but his Father’s. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 1. Case in point, the word “virgin” should not have been used in Isaiah 7:14. Then the Lord said to me, Name him Maher-shalal-hash-baz; 4 for before the child knows how to call ‘My father’ or ‘My mother,’ the wealth of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be carried away by the king of Assyria.’ (Isaiah 8:3-4). Sermon on John 3:22-36. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Now, this will make people think, because the general picture of someone “coming down from heaven, into the world” is more about the pre-incarnate Jesus (Yehoshua) descending down into the womb of Mary. They had their minds controlled to a point that all they could see was scriptures that prove the church right, versus what the actual authors were actually writing. The "harrowing of hell" refers to what Christ did when he descended to Hades or hell between his death and his resurrection. The same way Jesus (Yehoshua) did. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Copyright © Christ was speaking to the Jews who wanted to kill him throughout this chapter. Posted on Sep 21, 2010 Sep 21, 2010 by Peter Woods. Until Jesus ascended to Heaven, Paradise was the same place as Abraham’s Bosom. If you do have YHWH’s Holy Spirit, you have descended from heaven, and thus can see the kingdom of God (or ascend into heaven). 15 He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, 16 for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. He is not here. One of the more puzzling statements in that creed is: [Jesus] descended into hell. The Creed is often said out loud in church services and has been an important part of Christian worship since before 400 AD. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Because Christ was not beheaded, the whole body of Christ is currently in heaven with him. "He descended into hell." John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?”. Acts 1:9,11 Enterprise . Remember Christ’s body did not descend from heaven, his body was formed in Mary (not formed in heaven). 19 But Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother Philip's wife, and for all the evils which Herod had done, 20 Added yet this above all, that he shut up John in prison. If you are not born from above you cannot see and know of heavenly things, you cannot enter the kingdom of God. The choices are: Hopefully we can all agree that Isaiah was a true prophet, and thus the sign was fulfilled during the reign of King Ahaz. can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (the light of the world), ye shall die in your sins. 2 Corinthians 12:2. Descended from Heaven Gospel of Sunday August 12 2018 Dear brothers and sisters, the passage of the Gospel of John that we will listen next Sunday, August 12th, focuses on the mystery on the origin of Jesus. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. From JesusWordsOnly: After saying many things, this Gospel continues: “After the people were baptized, Jesus also came and was baptized by John. 23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. Answer: There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. In Ephesians 4:8, Paul talks about how Jesus ascended into heaven, and to explain this, Paul reminds His readers that Jesus was simply returning to where He came from, that is, heaven. To say that he descended from heaven is to say that he was sent by God. 125:1.1 Everywhere Jesus went throughout the temple courts, he was shocked and sickened by the spirit of irreverence which he observed. Will you try the patience of my God also? Paul does a lot of talking about how we’re one with Christ, situated in heavenly places currently. John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me. We have descended from heaven and been sent into the world as he was. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. Jesus of Nazareth—he is the Christ, the "Anointed One," or the "Messiah." 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Witnesses, To Jesus Christ Jesus Christ, Son Of God Heart, Divine Worthiness God, Joy Of Intimacy The Outpouring Of The Holy Spirit, God, Fatherhood Of and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.” Jesus Ascended to Heaven After Jesus rose from the dead, He spent 40 more days proving that He is alive and preparing His followers to continue His mission after He returned to heaven to be with His Father. Although this name mean ‘God is with us’ it does not mean that the child will be divine. Tag: jesus descended from heaven. All rights reserved. We see that Ezekiel was called “son of man” and what’s interesting is that Jesus (Yehoshua) talks about the son of man descending from heaven. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? The Book of Acts tells the story of Jesus Christ ascending to heaven. The Bible Claims to NOT be the “Word of God”, Isaiah was a false prophet because the sign was not meant for King Ahaz, Isaiah was a false prophet because the sign was meant for King Ahaz and was not fulfilled before he died, The sign was to King Ahaz, and was fulfilled, so Isaiah was a true prophet. Dear Brethren, Please send me the updates on what happened between Jesus Christ Crucifixion and resurrection. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. The Epiphany is an ancient Christian feast day and is significant in a number of ways. The sign God promised was that there would be someone in the besieged community with the confidence and faith in God’s salvation and protection that she chose the name for her son, ‘God is with us’ i.e. on Believers in Christ Have Descended From Heaven. Then, in verse 13 Jesus explains why He is uniquely qualified to teach of the kingdom of God—namely, because He alone came down from heaven and possesses the knowledge to teach people about heaven. In what sense did He descend? This forum is for Christians to help Christians. Even if you think it happened at his conception, in both cases, it was YHWH’s Holy Spirit that descended from heaven, not a fleshy body that descended. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. How can this be? Notice that the Greek word υἱοῦ (“son of”) precedes the name of each father. (y’know, we Catholics state it in the Apostles’ Creed) I myself was rather surprised when I read the Creed in English… I am Indonesian and in the Indonesian translation, it is “tempat penantian”, literally, “a place for waiting (the dead)”. The book of John doesn’t have anything about Jesus’ (Yehoshua’s) birth from Mary. LOT Healing is dedicated to sharing information on how to receive healing: physically, spiritually, and mentally. He’s saying you cannot ascend into heaven unless you’ve first descended from heaven, and he’s talking about sons of men, that is human beings. Did Jesus really descend to hell before he rose again from the dead? What’s also interesting is he does not use the term “son of God” but rather “son of man” perhaps to make the point that it’s not just about him coming down from heaven, but about the “sons of man” that came down from heaven before he did. He only ascended from earth to heaven because He first descended from heaven to earth. Because it’s such a change from the normal perspective, it will probably take a couple of listens and time studying it on your own to see things clearly. Instances. Please help me as I believe Jesus Christ didn’t go to the Hell, because of our sin. Do they not realize this verse says that they had to descend from heaven before they can ascend to heaven? Interestingly, Isaiah’s children are specifically referred to as a ‘signs’ from God. That argument is not what I find interesting, but the fact that they forget that they are told one day they will be in heaven is interesting. It is sometimes argued that Christ descended into hell after he died. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. The word "harrow" originally comes from the Old English hergian meaning to harry or despoil and is … 3:18-20). In a somewhat similar way, Matthew often reports Jesus as speaking about the kingdom of heaven. Those born of the “devil” cannot enter the kingdom of God. Unless the head of the body of Christ is in heaven and the rest of his body is down on earth, we too are situated in Heaven, IN Christ. Jesus, the human, did not exist actually before David, but the spirit of God did. YHWH’s Holy Spirit descended from heaven. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. ‘Emmanuel.’ People who are besieged do not normally reflect such positive attitude; knowing that at least one of his subjects believed that God would get them through this difficult time was the reassurance that Ahaz needed. No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven. They are also sent into the world in the same way he was. (NAS) For Jacob this dream of a stairway was a picture of the future redemption through Jesus. If you think that a virgin had to give birth to God to fulfill these scriptures, then you have to accept the fact that the scripture was a sign to King Ahaz also, in a form of dual fulfillment, so you have God coming down to earth 2 times. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 5. Some people like to use John 8 where Jesus (Yehoshua) tells some Jews that they of this world, to say we’re not like Jesus (Yehoshua), ourselves. So, like any cult, the leader was able to tell people what they wanted the people to believe and indoctrinate them. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. It didn’t help that translators were either manipulative or manipulated by being brainwashed themselves and wrote their doctrine into the translations. Psalm 16:10 foretold of Christ being in hell. Yeshua compares Himself to the heavenly manna which symbolizes God’s Torah. Jesus alone has seen the Father, and He alone is qualified to declare God and make Him known ( John 1:18 ). 2021 . He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) In response, Jesus explained that he was like the manna in the wilderness which “came down from heaven” (John 6:48-51). The Bakery at the heart of the Universe (Season of Creation 4 – The Cosmos) John 6:35-51. Jesus was not the only one who was sent by God. Notice he’s speaking of them being born from beneath (the “devil”). And also the early believers had a version of Matthew that states, this was when YHWH begot Jesus (Yehoshua). This does not mean the kingdom is in heaven, but that it is God’s kingdom, and in the other gospels it is called the kingdom of God. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Jesus went to Hell first. For I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. This is when YHWH said, this is my son in whom I’m well-pleased. We know that the Apostles’ Creed was not written by the apostles, but it’s called the Apostles’ Creed because it was the early Christian community’s attempt to give a summary of apostolic teaching. When Jesus declares he is the "Root and Offspring of David," he is exposing two facts: 1) David is descended from Jesus and 2) Jesus is descended from David. Here is a little snippet from an answer to the question concerning this scripture on hermeneutics.stackexchange.com. The whole of the verse in John 3:13 reports Jesus’ words to Nicodemus this way: “No one has ascended into heaven, except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.”, The KJV adds the words, “which is in heaven.” Even without this addition it is clear that Jesus is not talking about his geographic position on earth or in the sky, but is referring to his close relationship with his Father. For example (Daniel –דניאל) means ‘God is my Judge.’. He’s making the connection to who you are born from. Those born of God are not of this world in the same way Jesus (Yehoshua) was not of this world, they have descended into this world from above. As noted earlier, he began his career by being baptized by John, an eschatological prophet, and an understanding of eschatology is pivotal to interpreting Jesus’ world. 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? However, If you did not accept YHWH’s prophets/message/doctrine, then you would die in your sins. There was a belief in demigods, and the bible does say gods (fallen angels) mated with human women (daughters of men) and they bore little ‘g’ god-men children (Nephilim). This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. The Torah describes God’s intervention in the natural world as a divine descent. Further, to make the claim no one went to heaven before Jesus provides many inconsistencies with other biblical passages that speak of God's people in eternity with Him. There’s a belief in mainstream Christianity that we will go to heaven when we die. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. The term “son of man” means human being. Verse Concepts. The argument of Jesus (and John) goes something like this: “How can one be reborn from above, Nicodemus? In John 6, Yeshua claims to have descended from heaven. 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. It is very common for biblical personality to have names that include God and part of their name. That's one possible explanation of what Jesus did between Good Friday and Easter.. For more than a millennium, Christians have uttered some version of that phrase as part of the Apostles' Creed.And for nearly just as long, theologians have wrestled with what the phrase means or whether it should be included in the creed at all. Get your team aligned with all the tools you need on one secure, reliable video platform. …King Ahaz didn’t need a sign with regard to a future Messiah hundreds of years, hence. ... Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. He says, in John 7:16, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me.” Jesus was not the only one who was sent by God. It’s only translated as “virgin” one time and that’s because people are putting their virgin-birth beliefs into the translations rather than reading what the text says. (Mat 28,1-6) This stairway was the link between heaven and earth. The belief that Jesus descended into hell comes to us primarily from the Apostles’ Creed. What descended from heaven? Well, first, no one can ascend into heaven except the One who first descended from heaven. The realm into which Jesus descended is called Hell, in long-established English usage, but Sheol or Limbo by some Christian theologians to distinguish it from the Hell of the damned. If you’re born from above, you have God’s seed (YHWH’s Holy Spirit) inside, but if you’re born from below, you have the “Serpent Seed” (Anti Christ spirit) inside. If you listened to him, you heard from YHWH, and would live. 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